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ACH Short, How would you handle the exit?

Posted by Satuki On July - 28 - 2009

 I was actually gloating when the market was edging lower in the AM.  The first 2 shorts I took was MET and ACH. By the noon, I was thinking of a 600 to 800+ day because I had a lot of hopes in the ACH short , which was so close to the  planed target.  Of course, the difference between realized gains and paper gains is huge, as we will see shortly.

 

So not long after the opening bell, I took a short position in ACH @ 29.23 and it dropped promptly to 28.48.  My planed target was 28.36, which was a 3% move. If it touched 28.36, I would sell it at market.  However, as we can see from the 5 min chart below, it never materialized.   It was very close to my target and I had a 200+ profit on paper.   I ended up exiting it with a tiny gain (27.20). 

 

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This trade was similar to the ARO short I took yesterday. But it was worse since the ACH trade was much closer to the planed target than the ARO short.

 

I believe exits are much harder to handle than entries.   It is easy if a position is taken out by your stop loss.  But when you have a profitable position, it becomes harder.  You can certainly scale out.   That is one way to protect some profits.  You can also use a trailing stop. Speaking of using a trailing stop, I do not know how effective it is on day trading since the margin of a typical day trade is very low.  Once your trailing stop kicks in, a huge chunk of profit is gone.

 

I do not scale out since I normally set an OCO (order cancel order) for a position and then forget about it.  I try not to watch it since it will not move in my direction no matter how hard I stare at the position. In addition, I can save a lot of energy by ignoring it and look for other possible opportunities.


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  • Here is another exit plan from trader jaybee. He scales out

    Say you had 1000 shares

    1st exit grossed +.24 for 700x .24= $168
    2nd exit grossed +.53 for 300x .53= $159
    A total of $327 not bad in my book

    Here is his chart marked with his exits
    http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2474/chartof...
  • munimula
    Trailing stops on day trading seem especially difficult to manage, especially these days with prices fluctuating like they are. Plus it seems that there are stop 'hunters', though I don't know how that works exactly...or it could just be very common and bizarre coincidences that occur a lot. Hmm.
  • After a big move down like that I would tightly move the stops above the high of the previous candle stick until my stop got hit. If the previous candlestick was a long bar I might just use half of it's size as the stop instead of the top of it.
    .-= camtrader´s last blog ..camtrader: Running MacBook Pro with a 28" external monitor. Bliss! =-.
  • Moneybags
    I find exiting to be harder than knowing when to get in. Depending on the time frame and expected gain I try to set targets and based off of vol use trailing stops or a good one is a time stop to sell after 2 hours. I see a lot of hammers in there that could of given false signals so good luck
  • Jordo
    Learning candlesticks myself, I would have most likely moved to cover at the first hammer that appeared 5bars later or so, still would have been a decent 160-180 profit.
  • That is a very good one. I was looking at it myself after the market was closed. But I was not able to notice it since I fire and forget
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