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Buried Deep in DooDoo like FAZ,SRS, or alike?

Posted by Satuki On June - 7 - 2009

Did you buy FAZ around 30, 20, and 10 thinking it was cheap?  Did you not cut your losing FAZ position in a timely manner?  If your answer is “Yes”, then you are in deep doodoo.  These leveraged ETFs are not meant for the “buy and hold” strategy.  They are for day trading.  I know you did not want to hold it. You wanted to make some quick dollars but FAZ moved in your opposite direction. Now you are holding a bag due to your hesitation to cut losers.

 

When I started out trading, I was a bag holder for a while too. I remember I shorted HANS around 80, when it moved from 4 to 80.  I held the bag so firmly that I lost 50% on HANS.  So it is OK to be a bag holder when you just start out.  As long as your account is not totally destroyed yet, you might come back one day. But you will have to learn from your mistakes.  Let’s take a look at your mistakes.

 

1: buy and hold a leveraged ETF as if it were an investment grade stock
2: ride your losers for as painfully long as possible

 

Do we have a solution to your current deep losers?  Yeah!  Forget that you bought FAZ/SRS around 30, 20, or 10.  Take Friday’s close price as your entry price. For example, on 6/05/2009, FAZ closed @ 4.47. That is your entry price.  Set a stop loss no more than 10% and do not touch it.  Then, set a profit target like 25% or 30%.  If it drops and triggers your stop loss, you are out. If it moves up to your profit target, you are out. That is how I would handle it.

 

After you are done with it and have learned something worthwhile about trading, you can chalk it up as a tuition.


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  • camtrader

    I sold my 2 month FAZ loss of -74% I was holding onto last Monday. Good riddance!

    Before the start of this year I had discovered covered call selling and aimed to just do that, but got seduced back into making quick money with FAZ and buying SPY/WFC puts thinking the market would go down about a month or two ago.

    If I had stuck to my plan of just letting time decay on the options I sold on the stock I owned until expiration each month I’d be up about 16% YTD. Instead I’m down about -43%

    I don’t think I’ll touch FAZ for at least another year or two again.

    I think my problem is I need to have separate accounts for different strategies to prevent myself from committing the same errors until I become more disciplined. I should have more money in the conservative account for less risky strategies and have less money (10 or 15%) in a separate account for speculative experimental trading like FAZ, options, etc.

    • http://www.momdaytrader.com/blog/ Satuki (Trader Mom)

      You must feel relieved now. Holding a deep loser like that is not only bad for our money, it also distracts us from looking for the next possible winner. We might just spend all day long thinking about it or looking at it, wishing it would come back one day. No matter how hard we pray, we are not going to exert any influence on how it moves. So we need to get rid of it quickly so that we can regroup.

  • camtrader

    I sold my 2 month FAZ loss of -74% I was holding onto last Monday. Good riddance!

    Before the start of this year I had discovered covered call selling and aimed to just do that, but got seduced back into making quick money with FAZ and buying SPY/WFC puts thinking the market would go down about a month or two ago.

    If I had stuck to my plan of just letting time decay on the options I sold on the stock I owned until expiration each month I’d be up about 16% YTD. Instead I’m down about -43%

    I don’t think I’ll touch FAZ for at least another year or two again.

    I think my problem is I need to have separate accounts for different strategies to prevent myself from committing the same errors until I become more disciplined. I should have more money in the conservative account for less risky strategies and have less money (10 or 15%) in a separate account for speculative experimental trading like FAZ, options, etc.

    • http://www.momdaytrader.com Trader Mom

      You must feel relieved now. Holding a deep loser like that is not only bad for our money, it also distracts us from looking for the next possible winner. We might just spend all day long thinking about it or looking at it, wishing it would come back one day. No matter how hard we pray, we are not going to exert any influence on how it moves. So we need to get rid of it quickly so that we can regroup.


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