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Trading Automation Experiment Results

Posted by Satuki On May - 17 - 2009

Here are the final results of the trading automation experiment I conducted about 3 weeks ago.  The two stocks I chose for the experiment is FAZ and SRS.  Both are leveraged ETFs.    FAZ ended up making 30% on the first try.  However, SRS ended up having 5 losers in a row.  So the net is up 2.5%.   Here is the whole series 1 2 3 4 5

 

Here is what I learned so far from this experiment.  100% machine trading is probably not feasible.  If I had turned on the machine when FAZ and SRS were close to 100, then I would have lost my shirt trading this reversal pattern.  Nevertheless it does not mean that this reversal pattern is bad or not even tradable.  We need to find out WHEN we can turn on the machine. Preferably, it should be close to when a true reversal will happen.  It does not have to be very precious.  Using this experiment as an example, if a true reversal started now and the machine opened a trade, it would hit the 25% target.  This would cancel out all the 5 previous losers, which would result in a break-even in SRS.   That would leave us with a net 30% profit in the FAZ position.  So it is my next major project to find out when I can start to automate the trading of this reversal pattern.

 

Here is SRS’s chart with 5 losers on it.   Click on the image to have a better view

 

 

Machines can beat a lot of traders out there since machines do not have 4 very lethal problems that human traders have

1:  hold onto losers
2:  cut winners
3:  fear
4:  greed

 

However machines are susceptible to the following.

If my machine is based on trend following, it might be whipsawed to death without even knowing it being in a range-bound market.  Because it has no fear, it will keep taking fake signals.

 

If my machine is range-bound based (mostly using some type of oscillators), it might trade against a trend when it keeps shorting a overbought signal in a bull run. Because it has no fear, it will keep doing that until it has no money left.


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  • like2tradestok
    I have been working on an automated trading systems for several years. You need to add additional conditions to your pattern recognition system. I call them filters. Example might be volume constraints...if volume is greater than X then buy... Theses are "nested" if-then statements. Most of my work has multiple conditions in addition to the pattern. This will keep the system from being faked out. It will also miss some entries...but hopefully only a few. In addition to adding filters you can also add probability variables. I have run multiple systems at the same time...One that looks for trends and one that trades good in choppy markets. TS is awesome...easy language allows some very hardcore systems. I always back test with multiple time periods and markets before "turning on" the system. Always try to have systems with little drawdown and few consecutive losers. Your 5 losing trades might have been forseen statistically and the 6th one a big winner.
  • Thank you for your valuable input. I have a hunch that the 6th trade might be a winner. And of course, I have already turned it off. The fish that slipped away is always a big one.
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